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Offline BB_theoak

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« on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
Hero update.

Offline BB_BadReligionGuy

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #1 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
has it happened allready? or is it happening when hero update is here?

Offline BB_BadReligionGuy

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #2 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
thank ya kindly!

Offline BB_theoak

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #3 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
I have 2 levels left before all of my machine guns are maxed.  I can't wait to see what the buffing will do.  According to the wiki a maxed machine gun is capable of 1000+ damage per second; however, the realistic amount is 150'ish.  So about a 15-20% success rate.  Even if they double that to say a realistic to 300 per second - I'll take it.

Offline BB_bpepper

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #4 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
i think the MG damage is also tied to how far away the target is, SC didn't exactly spell out the detail, also that's a big nerf to warriors

Offline BB_Tryeeme

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #5 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by bpepper                 View Post              
             
i think the MG damage is also tied to how far away the target is, SC didn't exactly spell out the detail, also that's a big nerf to warriors
                  
    
 
Actually I'd disagree. As warriors are melee, they will always take nearly max damage anyway. I'd argue it's a lot bigger nerf to troops that stand a bit further away, like rifles and zookas.

Offline BB_facescraper

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #6 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
I'm guessing through testing the heroes added to normal army was just too strong. Rzcm is one of the strongest styles of attack and I guess with heroes they needed to tweak the machine guns a little to help defend.

Offline MikeCT1020

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #7 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
Sounds to me like the damage done to troops at a distance will be more but fewer troops will be hit.

Offline BB_geekboy

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #8 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by bpepper                 View Post              
             
i think the MG damage is also tied to how far away the target is, SC didn't exactly spell out the detail, also that's a big nerf to warriors
                  
    
 
Agreed.  They implied in the video update that the damage cone would be tighter.  So at the base of the cone, things would be the same, but one or two squares away, the damage would be significantly increased ... that means zookas and (especially) riflemen would be taking wayyy more heat.

Offline BB_bpepper

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #9 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by Tryeeme                 View Post              
             
Actually I'd disagree. As warriors are melee, they will always take nearly max damage anyway. I'd argue it's a lot bigger nerf to troops that stand a bit further away, like rifles and zookas.
                  
    
 
on the tropical terror stages, very often i had to chose what to shock what with limited gbe and all, if some MG's are a bit off away from HQ i might leave them unshocked, but with the buff you might have to shock them now

Offline LilMiss

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #10 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by bpepper                 View Post              
             
on the tropical terror stages, very often i had to chose what to shock what with limited gbe and all, if some MG's are a bit off away from HQ i might leave them unshocked, but with the buff you might have to shock them now
                  
    
 

 agreed,
 
 I don't have a TH, so mgs cause me no end of grief.  this will make it worse, how the heroes fit into this I have no idea yet. I'm just hoping that they can be useful.
 
 Critters to distract aren't going to last long either!
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Offline BB_facescraper

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #11 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by Lloopy14                 View Post              
             
agreed,
 
 I don't have a TH, so mgs cause me no end of grief.  this will make it worse, how the heroes fit into this I have no idea yet. I'm just hoping that they can be useful.
 
 Critters to distract aren't going to last long either!
                  
    
 
Might be also so the constant critters aren't OP. Makes sense...

Offline BB_Tryeeme

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #12 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by bpepper                 View Post              
             
on the tropical terror stages, very often i had to chose what to shock what with limited gbe and all, if some MG's are a bit off away from HQ i might leave them unshocked, but with the buff you might have to shock them now
                  
    
 
Oh fair enough, I didn't think of it like that

Offline LilMiss

Machine gun buff?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 15, 2017, 12:00 AM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by facescraper                 View Post              
             
Might be also so the constant critters aren't OP. Makes sense...
                  
    
 

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 very valid point!
 
 when I said critters I was thinking those just in range... so yes, you are right... the changes would affect them. The don't last long..but that extra second makes a difference!
 
 I do wonder how good that will be as a hero ability. it seems good.. maybe easier to time in ops than critter thrwo... but also could attract fire... I'm looking forward to that...
 
 I wonder if you can deploy the critter swarm under smoke.... hmmm
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