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Should no shield gen cycles be announced in advance?

Yes
4 (26.7%)
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Offline BB_Arghacceptmyname

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #30 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
I’m kind of enjoying the fact that this thread seems to be generating essays.
 
 I hope SC are following it.

Offline JBlon

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #31 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by Arghacceptmyname                 View Post              
             
I don't really understand the whole cycle thing. Every time a new toy (offensive or defensive) gets introduced, people come up with creative ways to use them and the general variety of bases and attack modes increases, leading to more challenges and more fun for most folks except for those who feel that they have an ordained right to beat every base unboosted with the only troops they ever use. I don't understand why they aren't all available. I feel that SC is drastically underestimating the creativity of folks, and this includes the top end of VP, regarding what they may come up with in combos and base designs if they had every proto to choose from. You could argue that 3-6 months down the way some particular layout might emerge as the proven best, and then it will get boring because everyone adopts it, but by then there could be more options on the way.
                  
    
 
I've wondered the same thing about the temp GBE abilities. I'm on the fence about it. I like the cycles and think they're generally a good addition to the game. And it's good to have special things to look forward to. But I also wonder if it might be even better to have all the tools in the toolbox available all the time. Granted, some balancing would probably be necessary for the beleaguered defenses. But there's still only so much GBE a person has to work with, and if someone wants to use a cryo bomb or a deployable turret, that's less energy for Barty, smokes or shocks. Screen space for all those additional abilities could be an issue but maybe there are solutions.
 
 Its probably easier to make the argument for having access to all the protos all the time. I don't mind the rotating cycle at all. But I think it's reasonable to ask whether it's doing what they intended for it to do. If that is to get people to use different ones, then it's probably working to some degree. But if someone is determined enough to use their favorite they can (and do) usually extend its use while it's rotated out. It seems to me like there's actually less variety now. In any given cycle, I tend to see people mostly using the same 2-3 protos at the same time. And which 2-3 protos you see just changes every week or two. It felt more random and varied somehow pre-cycles. I wonder whether vp range affects that.
 
 The creativity idea is relevant. Does restricting access inhibit player creativity or enhance it? Are we accomplishing more with less (mother of invention) or are we missing out on lots of other possibilities with umm, less colors in the crayon box?

Offline LilMiss

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #32 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by Mikect1020                 View Post              
             
Some players did have a meltdown the first time shield generators weren’t available. There were even rumors some leaderboard people were beaching their HQs in protest as a result. Another rumor was they were beaching them while online to tick people off when they see the beached HQ but couldn’t attack. I seem to recall, and I could be wrong about this, that the first time shield generators weren’t available it coincided with rainmakers being available and maybe even gunboat cryobombs.
                  
    
 
Beaching the HQ whilst online is a very old school thing, as was changing the layou just before they got off line.  Made sense post saved layout and pre ER, it would have been a pain to change troop combinations,again, and used more diamonds to rush.
 
 i do recall complaints about OP, that was a culmination of matters and yes, I would have benefits affexted and yes, it was  so obviously OP I don’t understand how it wasn’t spotted before hand.
 
 MElt downs are when rlight announced that barbed barbed wire was gonna be introduced. Or that which shall not be named has happened..
 
 
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by DeepMindAlphaZero;11833370
 Now I should address Lloopy's point and say [snip
                              
             
with NO ptps and no ice, I can easily pass 100 intel per week.
                  
    
 
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 I need 140, technically 147, to do CC daily in a 10 man. I’m not pushing, just chilling. When I was in  10 man doing DE I think it wasn’t ~ 160. CZ did a post where, on a very good week with the invasion gods in your favour,  clearing map twice daily, it may be (theoretically) possible to get 120 Intel. Although he didn’t get that many during his experiment, it was over 100. my second account is fairing better now it is not far off being maxed, but still low level defenses result in lack of intel.
 
 During the sneak peeks I clearly expressed my dissatisfaction with the removal of the DA. Ina recent poll on the forums the favourite proto was the DA.
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Offline Artist formerly known as Crows Nest

Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #33 on: Aug 09, 2019, 09:05 PM »
I wonder if our views on this have changed?
Mine hasn’t and I am around 1390vp so could be considered vp pushing(although not as I am still prepping)
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #34 on: Aug 09, 2019, 09:08 PM »
did they do it again?
I've been tracking the protos (as we know for hotpot availability) to see what the distribution of different protos availability is, but do not have enough data yet to really be constructive.

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Offline Artist formerly known as Crows Nest

Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #35 on: Aug 09, 2019, 09:16 PM »
They announced the no shield gens in jul 1-14. No announcement in August so I assume we will not have a no shield gen cycle this month.

As I said I wonder if our views have changed on this.


How is the distribution? Would be interested in the data so far.


Ps remember to vote in poll 🙂
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #36 on: Aug 09, 2019, 10:12 PM »
jesus, the 2 of you got me excited thinking drew actually post on this forum

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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #37 on: Aug 09, 2019, 10:22 PM »
Haha only this thread came back from the dead but thoughts are welcome from everyone, even drew 🙂
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #38 on: Aug 09, 2019, 10:47 PM »
Here ya go
WeekProtos
Doom CannonLazor BeamShock BlasterDamage AmplifierShield GeneratorGrapplerHot Pot SimoMicrowavrBoom SurpriseFlotsam CannonSky Shield
1-May111111
2-May111111
3-May111111
4-May111111
1-Jun111111
2-Jun111111
3-Jun111111
4-Jun111111
1-Jul111111
2-Jul111111
3-Jul111111
4-Jul111111
1-Aug111111
2-Aug111111
3-Aug
4-Aug
1-Sep
2-Sep
3-Sep
4-Sep
1-Oct
2-Oct
3-Oct
4-Oct
1-Nov
2-Nov
3-Nov
4-Nov
1-Dec
2-Dec
3-Dec
4-Dec
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Would be nice to apply borders, padding, cell padding etc
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #39 on: Aug 10, 2019, 03:59 AM »
Mr eyes hurt reading that
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #40 on: Aug 10, 2019, 04:05 AM »
Mr eyes hurt reading that
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #41 on: Aug 12, 2019, 09:30 PM »
lol...
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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #42 on: Aug 12, 2019, 10:06 PM »
Fritz, can we get some expanded table formatting tools, not in the mood to apply formatting in BB language
Would be nice to apply borders, padding, cell padding etc

You'd be better off using Google Sheets
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Offline MikeCT1020

Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #43 on: Aug 13, 2019, 07:07 PM »
They announced the no shield gens in jul 1-14. No announcement in August so I assume we will not have a no shield gen cycle this month.

As I said I wonder if our views have changed on this.


How is the distribution? Would be interested in the data so far.


Ps remember to vote in poll 🙂

The did announce in the video that there would be a no SG period in July but by the time the video came out the cycle without SGs had already started.

I still believe that they should do a 3 week period without shield gens. With advanced notice and proper planning a player can have at least 1 deployed throughout the whole 2 week period. Bump it to 3 weeks without SGs being offered and there will be a few days where they’ll have to do without.

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Re: Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #44 on: Aug 13, 2019, 08:40 PM »
You'd be better off using Google Sheets
Nope, I avoid google everything like the plague, too many points of vulnerablity, and additional data farming I am not willing to be subject too.
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