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Should no shield gen cycles be announced in advance?

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Offline MinionsWeb

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Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Either tell us every proto scheduled every week or tell us nothing.
 Alerting those who use shield to crutch up their Intel and dissuade attacks that there won't be shields just gives them prep time to minimize when they may be without them.
 
 You didn't tell me no hotspots this week.
 You didn't tell john there would be no doom cannon 2 weeks ago, and Lars is p.o.'d you did not alert him there were no microwaves 3 weeks ago.
 
 This nod to shielders has really gotten old.
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Offline BB_Spin7

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #1 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Given sgs are the most important proto, and used by most players over 1000 vp, it makes sense for sc to announce. Plus gives me time to warm up my warriors lol

Offline Woozie

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #2 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Agree, stop the favoritism.

Offline BB_TheCrowsNest

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #3 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Agreed, don’t announce any prototypes in advance.
 Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

Offline DeepMindAlphaZero

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #4 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Maybe it would be best to say how many times in a certain month the SGs wont be available. As said, SGs are the meta of VP pushing. Without them, my warriors can pretty much win every fight it ( or I can use any smokey attack).
 
  Now I do agree, anouncing the EXACT dates of no SG time negates the purpose alot, BUT you could offer a warning without saying exactly when.

Offline MikeCT1020

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #5 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
I agree, no warning. They should know it?s always going to be a possibility. I had a few bases that even after this last 2 week period ended had old shields out that were expiring even though we?d gone 2 weeks without them. VP will take a hit but everyone plays under the same rules so overall ranks should be affected too much if players prepare well.
 
  Also, give us 3 weeks without them sometime so we can work them all out for a few days.

Offline BB_GBbb

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #6 on: Aug 13, 2018, 11:40 PM »
grapplers have been missing so often recently 3  weeks in last 4 or 5, but no warning given.
 Agree very much that this warning of no shields completely negates the random roll of proto's. this months heads up did tell us that only attacking protos will be available, so atleast we know yet again no graplers.
 
 however it does feel like thats a little extra heads up due to realising the ridiculous decission of the missing sg warnings.. so that later it can be said "but we gave intel on not just missing sgs"

Offline BB_DrPopovich

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #7 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Agreed. No warnings please. Players just build one, deploy a few minute before it disappears from lab and then very quickly diamond some defence and another shield which is kept under wraps in lab until the first one goes away. And with the 9 day cycle for level 3 protos, having 2 shields one after the other makes it last for 18 days.

Offline BB_BoomABeach

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #8 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by TheCrowsNest                 View Post              
             
Agreed, don’t announce any prototypes in advance.
  Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.
                  
    
 
Nah to much work 😛
 
 
    
       
          
                        
                Quote Originally Posted by DrPopovich                 View Post              
             
Agreed. No warnings please. Players just build one, deploy a few minute before it disappears from lab and then very quickly diamond some defence and another shield which is kept under wraps in lab until the first one goes away. And with the 9 day cycle for level 3 protos, having 2 shields one after the other makes it last for 18 days.
                  
    
 
Does that anyway just in case, so wouldn't be any different.

Offline BB_Nosferatu666

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #9 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
I agree with op, bit unfair.

Offline TheBro88

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #10 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
+1 Makes no sense to announce something that?s going to add randomness/surprise/excitement to the game and then literally make it completely non-random, unsurprising, and unexciting by announcing it all the time. Should be something you?re waiting for, nervous about. Especially in the case of shields.
 
  Not that I even build protos. But still.
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Offline BB_Angrysloth

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #11 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
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Offline BB_Drew[Supercell]

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #12 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
When we first chose to change the Prototype Cycles on a weekly basis, removing Shield Generators unannounced was met by backlash by the Community for not being advertised beforehand.
 
 One of the main criticisms was that you should be able to plan in advance (particularly for SG's), as SG's are a staple of most player bases and are usually always in Proto cycles.
 
 So that's some thoughts behind why I've chosen to promote the schedule of when SG's won't be available. If this should extend to all Prototypes being announced is yet to be decided.

Offline MinionsWeb

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Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #13 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
Not to be crass, but really? staple of most players bases?
 Could we have some data on deployment of all protos historically as percentages, as relative to what percentage of players are using each?
 
 IME, just broached 1200vp doing 1-2 clears daily, I would say it is not the most used of all  the prototypes by a long shot.
  But is certainly employed more as VP  increases and a fact it is a staple among the iced LB'ers.
 As I noted earlier in the thread, a short census of the top 50 yields an 80-90% deploy rate
 
 How could they NOT have near always been available?
 There had only been 5 protos, then with the hotpot, 6.
 No cycles, just always there.
 Of course they were 'always' in the cycles.
 
 Now there are 10 protos and it was determined by the dev team to have a cycle, which is a great idea.
 But it is not random. You guys are deliberate it what is offered each cycle.
 We do not have prior knowledge of when the rest of the protos will be unavailable.
 
 I see it black or white, either announce all, or announce none.
 I would love to plan for not having hotpots for a week or 2.
 Instead, hmmmm...I try different things and have to use thought on how to make a less vulnerable base when my preferred proto is not available - without warning.
 After all, this is a strategy game.
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Offline JBlon

Please stop announcing when there won't be shields
« Reply #14 on: Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM »
That rationale is pretty disappointing. Leaking info to a specific group of players runs contrary to the purpose of the cycle in the first place. Let high level players adjust to randomly changing conditions just like everyone else. With so many players up in arms about fairness and leveling the playing field on the matchmaking front, here is a glaring example of favoritism and giving the chronic SG users an advantage over everyone else.