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Offline bpepper

a warship upgrade cost question
« on: Jul 14, 2019, 12:42 AM »
have 2 ER's currently, if i were to unlock the 3rd ER, and unlock and then upgrade everything instantly, how many upgrade token i have to hoard?

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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #1 on: Jul 14, 2019, 01:27 AM »
have 2 ER's currently, if i were to unlock the 3rd ER, and unlock and then upgrade everything instantly, how many upgrade token i have to hoard?

From a scientific point of view and not really knowing the answer about a month, by which time you're gonna be constantly matched with 3 ER and constantly losing
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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #2 on: Jul 14, 2019, 01:41 AM »
that's exactly why i want to accumulate upgrade tokens now before unlocking the 3rd ER, that's why i'm asking the question

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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #3 on: Jul 14, 2019, 02:39 AM »
You are going to be matched with 3 ER constantly as time goes on
Unlock the ER as soon as you can

There is no benefit to hoarding
Upgrade tokens
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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #4 on: Jul 14, 2019, 06:13 PM »
now i know what you meant, got matched with a player with 3 ER's, and i'm not even maxed with 2 ER's stuff

Offline Orrscores

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #5 on: Jul 15, 2019, 02:42 PM »
So I'm guessing the MM is determined by a combination of ER and tech lvl? I ran into the same thing one point...2 vs 3 ers...you'll loose every time
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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #6 on: Jul 16, 2019, 01:38 AM »
i think the MM has to be loose on the edge, think about it, at some point most would have maxed 2 ER's and naturally go onto 3 ER's, then who would players still holding down @ 2 ER's be matched up with?

Offline Brewingbeer

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #7 on: Jul 16, 2019, 06:34 PM »
I'm at 2 ER and I've only faced one 3 ER opponent so far. I'm sticking at 2 ER until I finish my last barrage upgrade.

Offline Chaucer

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #8 on: Jul 16, 2019, 08:23 PM »
I'm at 2 ER and I've only faced one 3 ER opponent so far. I'm sticking at 2 ER until I finish my last barrage upgrade.

In my experience you are just holding yourself back. Maxing out barrage seems really good at 2ER level, but that strategy loses value if you eventually move up.

The 3ER level is actually much faster, pretty much gauranteed to get all 3ERs each time, which translates to 50% faster filling of chests.
In addition, its a lot more interesting once you get flares and can actually direct your troops.
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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #9 on: Jul 16, 2019, 09:24 PM »
Agreed, 2er is terrible, get to 3er as soon as possible and you will have much more fun, Warships doesn’t start until 3er. There is no drawback that I can see rushing to 3er as soon as you possibly can.

I hope supercell never has another 2er season as dire and boring as this one has been.
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Offline Chaucer

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #10 on: Jul 17, 2019, 05:17 PM »
IMO, the longer you spend in each level, the more likely you will be facing harder opponents.
So this far into the season, the cohort of players that are still at 2ER are more likely to be following a similar strategy to BrewingBeer, ie maxing everything out before moving up.

Given that there is very little attack strategy possible at 2ER, it is mostly just win/lose trading. With the outcome based on mostly inconsequential factors like who happens to have 1 more mortar upgrade or which players barrage happens to destroy the cannon or not.
This leads to your rank pretty much stagnating. Since the timed chest rewards are based on your rank, staying at the lower rank imposed by camping at 2ER means that you are losing out on the better rewards possible from increasing in rank.


It is probably also true that at this point, moving up to 3ER you will likely be facing players that have been at that level longer and likely will have more upgrades at that level. Again, this is primarily due to the fact that they have attained higher rank and have been getting better chests.
But staying at low ER levels longer, will only continue to exacerbate the mismatch.


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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #11 on: Jul 17, 2019, 05:21 PM »
In my experience you are just holding yourself back. Maxing out barrage seems really good at 2ER level, but that strategy loses value if you eventually move up.

The 3ER level is actually much faster, pretty much gauranteed to get all 3ERs each time, which translates to 50% faster filling of chests.
In addition, its a lot more interesting once you get flares and can actually direct your troops.


It's a 90 day season. I'm in no rush. I'm just pacing myself. I have zero desire to chase any leader board. I don't need to fill chests any faster.

Offline Chaucer

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #12 on: Jul 17, 2019, 11:28 PM »
It's a 90 day season. I'm in no rush. I'm just pacing myself. I have zero desire to chase any leader board. I don't need to fill chests any faster.
Okay, whatever floats your boat, 1 month gone already actually.

I'm not chasing Leaderboard either, but 2ER was drop dead boring, I wanted out of that level as fast as possible!

I just wanted to warn you that choices made early, like maxing barrage, could effect your enjoyment down the road. As in, you wont be able to beat anyone at 4ER, if you make it to that level.

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Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #13 on: Jul 17, 2019, 11:55 PM »
Good point about people getting better chests and playing more. I started playing this season of warships late and only recently started playing daily at all just for chests and there is a definite Turtling effect whereby you do seem to get matched with opponents who have seemingly superior defence and attack. As you said 2er is largely down to luck, I rarely got much more than a 3 or 4 win streak, losing by seconds and winning by seconds. Up rank and down rank all the time.
3er I have been mostly winning and 8 or 9 win streaks. Much more fun, I should go up to 4er now, probably tomorrow.
My upgrades were maxing landing craft first, then troops then cannons and mgs and mortars, flares, and unlocking brick, flamers and smoke.
Soooo good to have flares and smoke again
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Offline Brewingbeer

Re: a warship upgrade cost question
« Reply #14 on: Jul 18, 2019, 06:02 PM »
Okay, whatever floats your boat, 1 month gone already actually.

I'm not chasing Leaderboard either, but 2ER was drop dead boring, I wanted out of that level as fast as possible!

I just wanted to warn you that choices made early, like maxing barrage, could effect your enjoyment down the road. As in, you wont be able to beat anyone at 4ER, if you make it to that level.

I've been playing this game a long time. I don't need your warning, thankyouverymuch.