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Whatever people think of the leaderboards, this is a huge achievement. Congratulations.
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Offline MinionsWeb

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #1 on: Jan 28, 2019, 12:02 PM »
Huge if done all by himself.
Not impressed if done by committee.
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Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #2 on: Jan 28, 2019, 12:50 PM »
I can’t say for sure but I believe he did the hits himself but the final push necessitated joining a Chinese team


Extract from discord
If any non Chinese player deserves it its mordy and I'm so pumped for him but it's frustrating that he tried everything under the sun to do it on his own and finally succeeded when he joined a Chinese team 😐


<@!205474773864677386> I think we need to relaunch a new team that better support each other in reaching our goals, the flake team fell apart and even when it was together it was only helping a few top people


<@439252889521750016> if I'm being honest, it's not something we can compete with on our end, I dont even want to try.  Each of these teams has well over 1000 members in their 1200+VP chat and every one of them is willing to "help" in ways English teams will never do because they have a pretty significant financial incentive and their culture is such that it's not a big deal to them to break TOS to facilitate success like it is for us.  Even if our team was massive, I dont think we would ever get people literally spending all day shielding players so that enemy teams have to skip even if they are able to beat the base like we face right now.  It's something that I'm pretty convinced is just going to be broken until supercell finds a way to address it which has historically only happened with "easy" things like mods, scouts per day increasing as you gain VP, etc.  They could fix stuff like the medic shielding thing and the max attempts bug but I dont think they could ever stop they red envelope bit which h's been around as long as boom has.


SC could do a lot better if they wanted to purposely sacrifice game integrity for bottom dollar and I cant see how whales would stop spending just by changing a broken leaderboard to a fair one
« Last Edit: Jan 28, 2019, 12:58 PM by Artist formerly known as Crows Nest »
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Offline Whirlwind

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #3 on: Jan 28, 2019, 08:14 PM »
Personally I’m happy for Mordy, I know he wanted it badly and think he still has tons of pp so would expect him to continue for several more months.  Everyone plays the game differently and it s up to them to choose their own style of play. I know some players enjoy the building process (like myself) while others just want the hardware (golden rings) at whatever the cost. I once knew a guy that got banned for cheating, then came back with a bought #1 account with all the hardware which also included a name change so he changed it to his.


It is kind of ironic that Mordy was #1 globally & #1 on China leaderboard but didn’t make to #1 on the US leaderboard because his account was Chinese when he acquired it.
« Last Edit: Jan 28, 2019, 10:05 PM by Whirlwind »

Offline Yallik

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #4 on: Jan 28, 2019, 10:46 PM »
I can't be anything but happy for Mordy. Dude is beast mode. 💪

Offline MinionsWeb

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #5 on: Jan 29, 2019, 06:16 AM »
Right out of the gate...if it's a bought account, you're a cheat.Need blockers, farmers etc to keep your rise going, you're a cheat.No kudos from.me, I don't care how well you can hit, it it isn't all you w/o assistance, it doesn't mean shit.No respect whatsoever.
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Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #6 on: Jan 29, 2019, 08:26 AM »
Global vp leaderboards are broken, everyone knows it but for pvp players it is all they have. Supercell has had years to correct this and haven’t therefore the broken system is the reality of the pvp world.

Don’t hate the player, hate the system.

I think of it as the formula one of boom beach. The drivers don’t build their cars, they need a team, they need money and it is totally corrupt/politicised. It needs an amazing amount of skill and dedication but at the end of the season they are the formula one world champion or not.

For me mordy did good and I hope he stays in the game now he has achieved his goal.
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Offline Yallik

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #7 on: Jan 29, 2019, 08:37 PM »
Okay, I fail to see how a bought account takes a shred if credit away from him.

Blockers, red envelopes, that crap would diminish the accomplishment. Skipping some of the prep time? Nah that doesn't bug me. Because we all know he's been up there before and could do it again whenever ...

Offline CaptNasty

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #8 on: Jan 31, 2019, 04:36 PM »
Okay, I fail to see how a bought account takes a shred if credit away from him.

Blockers, red envelopes, that crap would diminish the accomplishment. Skipping some of the prep time? Nah that doesn't bug me. Because we all know he's been up there before and could do it again whenever ...
In joining the Chinese team isn’t that exactly what pushed Mordy over the top: blockers, red envelopes, etc? 

As far as purchasing an account, it is against TOS.  To Minions point, if you violate TOS you are by definition a cheater.

I personally think Mordy reaching number 1 should have an asterisk by it (as should every other #1 be it past, present or future who gets there via committee).


I would have loved to see Boom Beach go with a regional server model.  Put China on their own servers and let the rest of the world have a separate set of servers.  Would allow the Chinese players to play the game as they see fit without making the rest of us live with the shadiness.  But that ship has sailed.  Boom Beach is beyond it’s prime and such an investment seems highly unlikely.
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Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #9 on: Jan 31, 2019, 05:52 PM »
I don’t know what advantages mordy got by joining a Chinese team but just because similar teams use red letters and blockers it doesn’t follow that he benefited from such. There is more to joining a team than just the shady stuff. But equally maybe he did get such benefits, I don’t know.

As for the tos stuff I totally disagree that by breaking any part of the tos you are a cheater. Breaking some parts you are most definitely a cheater. Most of it is legal mumbo jumbo that will trip up the vast majority of players.
If you are twelve years old and reach number one without any shady tactics then you have broken the tos and are a shameless cheater?
If you offend someone in game because your name is something rude in another language then you are a despicable cheater?
If you allow your kids to attack a base then you are forever tarnished and a cheater?
There are many more examples of breaking the tos that does not mean you are a cheater.

The system is broken, has not been fixed, is not going to get fixed so what are players supposed to do? Curl up and let the people that are breaking the system dictate your enjoyment of the game?

Direct your upset towards the people that allowed this system to happen and should be fixing it not the people stuck with it.


The regional servers sound good and there could be a global league table that is strictly monitored for the top players but as you say that ship has sailed. Also there is nothing currently stopping supercell monitoring the global leaderboard or even a part of it but they don’t.
« Last Edit: Jan 31, 2019, 11:03 PM by Artist formerly known as Crows Nest »
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Offline Castle Grayskul

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #10 on: Jan 31, 2019, 10:29 PM »
Crow , your basicly saying that if you cant beat the cheaters then its ok to join them because the "system" is broken...so i agree with minion about this..i belive in playing by the rules and i hate cheaters, so anything done while cheating is a lameass hollow victory to say the least...

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #11 on: Jan 31, 2019, 10:55 PM »
We all have different red lines in life. We all see things in our own ways. I have spent long periods of my working life making colourful things into black and white facts. So yes I believe you do what you are comfortable with and live with the judgement of others but ultimately it is your conscience that is most important.

The pvp system is broken, the rules are not enforced, all your peers are working to something different to what is written down. If you want to compete with your peers in such a system then pragmatism will beat principles. The broken system is the system so how can it be cheating? By not working to the reality of the system you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
If supercell wanted it otherwise then they could change it. Monitor and enforce the global leaderboard simples.

Saying all that I personally wouldn’t do any of the shady practices that we hear about because it just isn’t that important to me but if it was...

I would love the system to be fair, to be monitored and enforced but it isn’t. Most of my “significant” posts on the forum are about fairness, cheating and  promoting different ways of playing for all sorts of players based on knowledge and choice.
I am hoping that Warships will give a better outlet for the pvp players to enjoy because what pvp players have just now is wrong.


Edit interesting discussion 👍
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Offline Orrscores

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #12 on: Feb 01, 2019, 12:55 AM »
As an observer I think its sad that it has come to this. We will no longer know who " the best" really is. Unfortunatly it seems that it is impossible to top the leader board without ...um...colluding and giving in to the " system" that is now in place. I'm sure some of these players are the best of the best but how will we ever know for sure? Like I've said before, I could really care less but as an observer it really sucks for the very talented players that deserve the recognition but are tainted due to the issue. Just my opinion of course
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Offline CaptNasty

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #13 on: Feb 01, 2019, 11:53 PM »
Ok, I will restate what I said like this:


In joining the Chinese team Mordy has left a question as to how he got to #1.  We do not know what assistance he did or did not get by joining them, but it is both reasonable and even to be expected that some will question the authenticity.  As I said there is an asterisk by Mordys achievement.  An asterisk that he chose.  I stand by that statement 100%.


As far as “hate the game not the player”.  I am calling BS.  That is a rationalization.  I do not buy into such moral relativism.  Just because you can do something does not make it right.  The end does not justify the means.  These very concepts were argued some years ago on the SC forum.  SC officially weighed in.  Their take: exploiting the game is cheating and could lead to bans.

Offline MinionsWeb

Re: 🎉🎉🎉 Master Mordy is Global Number One 🎉🎉🎉
« Reply #14 on: Feb 02, 2019, 12:30 AM »
We all have different red lines in life. We all see things in our own ways. I have spent long periods of my working life making colourful things into black and white facts. So yes I believe you do what you are comfortable with and live with the judgement of others but ultimately it is your conscience that is most important.

The pvp system is broken, the rules are not enforced, all your peers are working to something different to what is written down. If you want to compete with your peers in such a system then pragmatism will beat principles. The broken system is the system so how can it be cheating? By not working to the reality of the system you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
If supercell wanted it otherwise then they could change it. Monitor and enforce the global leaderboard simples.

Saying all that I personally wouldn’t do any of the shady practices that we hear about because it just isn’t that important to me but if it was...

I would love the system to be fair, to be monitored and enforced but it isn’t. Most of my “significant” posts on the forum are about fairness, cheating and  promoting different ways of playing for all sorts of players based on knowledge and choice.
I am hoping that Warships will give a better outlet for the pvp players to enjoy because what pvp players have just now is wrong.


Edit interesting discussion 👍
Was taking advantage of the quirks of magic accounts fair to all leaderboard players, or was that cheating (as soooo many whined about, including Mordy (chief complainer AFAICT))??
Anyone could buy a magic account had they known where and how.
Honest play or cheating?
Angry family, honest play or cheating?

Paint the black and white any color you want, cheating is cheating as defined by the rules put in place by the powers that be.
Now we already know their stance on integrity, since they have demonstrated time and again they have little to none themselves.

BTW, happy 1 year anniversary since the last update.
No, new levels to heroes and a monthly megacrab is not an update.
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